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what's up everybody thanks for joining

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me today

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uh this is the second interview i've had

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um earlier we were lucky enough to have

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mr nick pope

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um and that well nick pope is a super

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uh very nice um and i can confirm he is

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a robot he is a real person um

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and yeah we had a great talk so

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i know you know as much as i'd like to

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think that all you guys are here for me

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um i'm also very grounded in reality i'd

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like to think

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so i won't uh leave you waiting anymore

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but i do have a special way

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to introduce lou today coming up

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head of your disclosure

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where is it

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how are you

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that's uh that's very clever i've never

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had an intro done like that thank you so

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it's already original we're starting

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yeah that's uh was a uh you know funny

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it sounded like a little bit like an

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echo chamber and i remember sometimes in

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the pentagon when i was trying to

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to get the attention of some seniors it

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was very much like that just this

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this echo matters

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right yeah um sean thank you so much for

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for having me um and i mean it sincerely

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and thank you to your to your wonderful

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audience

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um this last week i've been a bit uh

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missing in action

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chris mellon and i have been doing some

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work um

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that will probably the fruits of those

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labors will

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will become self-evident hopefully here

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very soon

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but we've been working very very hard

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and a lot of time it takes us

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a lot of times it takes us actually

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leaving where we are and having to go

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somewhere else in this particular case

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we were in colorado springs for about

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we're a little bit incommunicado

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uh but we are now back uh in the saddle

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and um if i may just touch you know real

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thank you for for that that other intro

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you did

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with uh with the music you know uh music

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a lot of people don't realize that music

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is a very intimate form of communication

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and uh whereas perhaps uh even more so

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than spoken words

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you know words words portray thoughts

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whereas music portrays emotion and and

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uh something even a little bit more

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intimate and um

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truthful right so whereas words speak

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uh music speaks the heart and so um

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yeah man it was my pleasure i see out

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there just getting

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basically beat up a lot

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and i know what now i don't know what

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on your level but i've had my own beaten

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and i know what that's like and i have

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compassion for that because you're doing

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work and i can't imagine what that's

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um just have tomatoes tossed at you well

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you know fortunately that the tomatoes

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government i take it a little bit more

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more seriously you know a lot of the

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crap you see on on social media is

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is just noise uh it's just you know

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people who

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are jealous or they're trying to protect

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their their little cottage industry

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uh and and they do silly things um i

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yet but um i suspect that uh

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this is gonna be an interesting week um

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uh there are some voices that haven't

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and um you know hopefully you know

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than than most i think most people can

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see through the ruse

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most people have a you know a fairly

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fairly decent amount of gray matter

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even going back to three years ago you

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know the the truth always speaks

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sometimes she whispers but she always

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speaks uh so you have to listen

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be pretty interesting i think

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when people when the when the when the

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shoe drops people are gonna kind of go

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wake them up

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uh to the reality of the dangers of the

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these cults of personality that we have

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in this community unfortunately

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um but uh you know it is it is a real

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there are people out there not just in

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the ufo community but but out there that

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that prey upon people and they take

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advantage of them and they will

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uh not only you know take their money

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but they'll take their heart and soul if

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um because that's the way certain people

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uh the good news is that like i said i

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think people are smarter than that i

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don't mind tomatoes being thrown by uh

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you know there's something you don't

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heard anyways no no and you know what

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there's an old saying you're judged uh

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you know how uh i guess how uh

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how influential you are by by by the

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types of enemies you have right so

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if those are my enemies i'm obviously

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not very influential

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yeah well well then maybe that doesn't

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make so much sense i don't know

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but um i did want to start it's funny

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i was going to play it for you and i had

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the lyrics i

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emailed them to you and i want you to

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sing them with me

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and then when we're done we'll do it

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to get in tune singing the third time

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i'm just kidding i i've

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i i i totally yeah you don't want me

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what do you try to sing uh you know what

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latin thing uh you know we

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the calm guy and uh then you kind of

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to to the to the bigger bigger ensembles

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yeah i i love music and um you know

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rob zombie you know marilyn manson what

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mood i'm in i love classic rock i love

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uh you know i've got a very unique um

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an eclectic playlist you play chess i do

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actually i have a couple chess uh chess

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challenge you sir i do well i didn't say

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okay so good is relative chances are

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you're looking to go against big blue

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uh i'm gonna i'm gonna fail miserably

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all right fair enough now

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i guess we can get into this stuff that

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these people want to uh hear about right

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um the first thing i wanted to really

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and i mean correct me if i'm wrong but

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honest and in pursuit of the truth

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anything that they would

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uh i guess i'm getting what i'm getting

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what he thinks i will tell you eric is

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an incredible human being

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uh i i will you know this is a he's not

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only a former colleague but he's a

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um and he's uh he's probably one of the

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human beings um that i've i've ever met

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he has a photographic memory

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he's done more for this country than

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most people will ever could ever imagine

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uh one day his story will be told but

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uh you know he he was he was present for

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pivotal moments in in our nation's

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an incredible human being yeah so if if

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we shouldn't really have a reason to

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doubt that then well we shouldn't

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doubt his his his that he believes that

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you know at the end of the day

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look strong aliens what does what does

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aliens mean

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were building a wall you know on the

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southern border to keep them out

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so you know everybody my point being is

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everybody has a different and and i

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don't mean that flippantly you know

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i'm not i'm not trying to make a

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political statement here i'm just simply

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that the the definition of alien i think

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people mean extraterrestrial well sure

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again what does that mean because people

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say well it means not from earth but

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but again you know what does that mean

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you know we're not talking about you

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know you automatically you're you're

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something that's from this planet that

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just as natural as us but

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point where we're learning about it

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so you know and then when you say you

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know

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transpermia and the theory of that that

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possibly we're aliens right maybe maybe

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we're

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belong right so sure

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you know i guess my point is a good

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argument for that by our behavior so

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i think we need to have a common you

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know if you will lexicon before we start

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uh saying one thing or the other i think

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we all have to agree on terms that's

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very important

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uh and and what they mean and then and

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then we can probably start

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conversations yup love it um

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moving on third gear

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um first of all are we there

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and if so how many gears are there

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i heard you won't say you were serving

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an eight-course meal so i want to say

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maybe eight gears but i'm not sure

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sure well you know let me go a little to

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gear talk here and gearhead

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you know i i love uh i love working on

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on mechanical things

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automobile it's a bit of my therapy

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really yeah um

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and you know the the trick is um to have

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just as many gears that the engine can

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can um use without without bogging down

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right so i'll give you an example back

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in the old day

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uh there when when when corvette started

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putting in a

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a six speed in their in their in their

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corvettes

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it turned out that fifth gear was

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actually faster than the six gear

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because the engine

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didn't wasn't designed for that extra

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load think of a 10-speed bike right when

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you're a kid

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although you're probably a newer

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generation but when i was a kid the

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10-speed was it i mean that was the

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absolute

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bomb that was a bike to have and the

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problem is if you put in 10th gear and

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tried to start you couldn't

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because of the gear ratios and the way

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they were you had to have enough

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momentum

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in order to flip through those gears and

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then once you were at eight or nine then

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you could you could switch pretty easily

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to ten and you were moving pretty fast

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um you know it's i think it's important

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to note that

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um the vehicle that that i kind of use

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this analogy with

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um is being built as we're driving it um

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and

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the engine can take

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um i i you know let's even

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even let's just say hypothetically we

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get into full disclosure

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right and and now all governments are

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talking and we are

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at this you know state of of

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quote-unquote disclosure nirvana right

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is the mission over and and i ask you

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that sean is the mission no it's not

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right because now it now the question is

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okay so

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so how are we going to behave what do we

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want let let's say there is some sort of

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life form now that we're

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we're having conversations with you know

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what does that political relationship

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look like

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right and diplomatic relationship looked

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like are they

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are they equals are they peers um or are

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they are they not right and then what do

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we do about it so

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again my point being is that um you know

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first gear was having the conversation

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uh in a way that we could we could uh

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push elements within our government to

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to to recognize it's okay to have a

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conversation

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phase two was getting our government

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involved in

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in a very meaningful way and getting

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involved long-term not just

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just once you know third gear is is

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getting now the international community

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on board to know that it's okay to have

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a conversation

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right and let them know that that we can

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do this collectively

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as as a whole as a planet not

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necessarily as one nation or one country

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uh and uh you know fourth gear fifth

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gear sixth gear

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um you know this is this is you always

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move

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onward and upward right so i i don't

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want to i don't want to predict how many

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gears i can i can tell you certainly

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that we're building the engine to handle

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as many as it can

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sure uh flexible you know we don't we

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don't want to make the mistake that

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that car manufacturers did in the past

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where you put so many gears at the

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engine can't take it

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uh you know there's a semi-tractor

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trailer truck some of those have 13

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15 even 18 gears so we might have to be

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that

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hey listen you know who's going to do

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you know who's going to determine that

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it's going to be you and your audience

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that should

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know who's going to church it's not

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going to be me no i think you're right

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even

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like i'm beginning to i mean to be

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honest i've only been

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um doing my research since my own

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experience in

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september but recently i really enjoy

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looking for the old documents

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the old stuff like researching attic osi

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all that

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sure um what i've noticed is

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in a lot of these like minutes of

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meeting documents

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these guys actually say that the

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pressure from the outside

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in the public interest basically affects

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them it affects their decision making

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the choices they make

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so it's not a mute point when we're out

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here you know

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causing noise and making noise because

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it really does affect the way they treat

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the situation and if they could see

435
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we're not going away i think you know

436
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well i think you guys are the reasons

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why we can have this conversation

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because people know it's acceptable and

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you're

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you but well you know what i i i'm part

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of that give me that

442
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you know no really it's true i mean i i

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mean people give me a lot more credit

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than i deserve i

445
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you know i'm i'm i'm part of the effort

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but

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you know a lot of people say oh lou

448
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you're the leader and you're standing in

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front of the you know of this this this

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massive army this ground swell

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and and you know what i i i don't see

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anybody behind me i look to my left and

453
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to my right and everybody's right there

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with me you know we're

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we're doing this together yeah this is

456
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working with you it's because of your

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humble spirit

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man you can't really get this far if

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you're not that way

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otherwise it just catches up to you and

461
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well it does

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and and you know hubris as i hate to say

463
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is an old

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adage as a mofo um stay stay away from

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from that pride and ego there's no place

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for this uh in this topic for pride and

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ego

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you know this is something that that

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affects the collective

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and and we need to treat it as such and

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we need to to

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to lock arms hand in hand and and

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whatnot and

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and be courageous to ask the the hard

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questions

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yeah i think i mean when i think about

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you

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i'd think about and this is not just a

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love fest i just want to be able to tell

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you this stuff

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um because who knows you know tomorrow's

482
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not guaranteed but when i think about

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you

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um i go i go back

485
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a couple years to your videos and you're

486
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consistent

487
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even on the local news channel when you

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look like you're

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10 years younger and you're saying

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we don't know what this is i can't tell

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you or commit to this thing or the other

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thing i'm not the right person to ask

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there's other people you know and if you

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find a video where you're asked the same

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question recently

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you'll say the same thing you're not

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trying to pull

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people into no um your business no

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basically

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no that's that's that's where where this

501
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community went wrong for so

502
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so many times before you you have people

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that have hijacked the narrative you

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have people that say i'm the only one

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that has the answers and become this

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almost this demigod figure

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like a cult figure really and and starts

508
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you know recruiting people and uses all

509
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the the classical

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techniques of brainwashing and

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manipulation so people continue

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to to follow their their quote-unquote

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path but you know there's

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other people in in in the past that

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reminds me of reminds me of jim jones

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it reminds me of heaven's gate right uh

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and and

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you know people people lost their lives

519
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people in this case maybe there's no one

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that's that

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you know hopefully that intends to do

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that but this this community is full of

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these

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cults of personality and it is sad it's

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tragic because

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you know there are people that want to

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know the truth and these people

528
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are are there are unscrupulous people

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that are peddling

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crap and they want something to hang on

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to like it's almost

532
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treated like a spirituality thing when

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people need jesus or people need

534
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church like that's filling that void for

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them and that is

536
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extremely dangerous to give that power

537
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to somebody like that well i agree and

538
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this is why i tell everybody you know

539
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i'm i'm not that guy

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uh you know if uh if you're looking for

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me to

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to give people the ultimate answers to

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the universe

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and solve those mysteries i'm not that

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00:18:53,830 --> 00:18:51,520
guy i wouldn't believe you anyways

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00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:53,840
you know yeah so you know and and

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frankly between you me i don't think

548
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you know there is anybody right now that

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has those answers and

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and i would just caution people to

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please be very very careful

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uh when you when you have somebody that

553
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is is is selling you the truth

554
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selling you the truth right yeah

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literally uh literally

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um you know i i take great exception to

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that i i like

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00:19:20,070 --> 00:19:18,080
you know sean i don't get paid to do

559
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this i don't get paid to do these things

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um

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you know if if if there is someone doing

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a a

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an event uh like when i did the the

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mufon

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and the cun i didn't get money there

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were other speakers that got paid i

567
00:19:35,669 --> 00:19:33,200
refused to get paid i said

568
00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:35,679
i i don't want it there's only been two

569
00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:37,360
two venues i've ever been paid

570
00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:38,880
and it's because i had to take time for

571
00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:40,640
my government job and i had to pay my

572
00:19:42,789 --> 00:19:41,280
mortgage

573
00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:42,799
so i said look i don't want you to pay

574
00:19:45,909 --> 00:19:44,400
me just do me a favor at least make up

575
00:19:47,830 --> 00:19:45,919
for the money i'm losing

576
00:19:49,909 --> 00:19:47,840
because i i got to pay a bill you know

577
00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:49,919
what i mean and you want me to

578
00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:52,480
go there and do something it's it's it's

579
00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:54,160
costing me a lot of money you know

580
00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:55,280
please don't don't let it

581
00:19:58,549 --> 00:19:56,640
i don't want to make money but don't

582
00:20:00,070 --> 00:19:58,559
don't make it cost me money you know

583
00:20:01,669 --> 00:20:00,080
and so do you have a hard time

584
00:20:04,950 --> 00:20:01,679
navigating that line

585
00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:04,960
where it's um you know almost

586
00:20:11,270 --> 00:20:08,320
a detriment to yourself and family

587
00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:11,280
it isn't true to do something yeah yeah

588
00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:12,640
but but at the pro

589
00:20:16,789 --> 00:20:15,039
until someone stands up and and maybe

590
00:20:18,230 --> 00:20:16,799
someone that was part of atip before or

591
00:20:19,350 --> 00:20:18,240
part of the new task force stands up and

592
00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:19,360
can take over this

593
00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:21,760
and i don't have to do it you know i i

594
00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:22,720
don't want to

595
00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:28,880
you know once once i can truly step down

596
00:20:32,870 --> 00:20:30,640
and someone else can take over then you

597
00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:32,880
know what yeah i'm going to go

598
00:20:36,870 --> 00:20:35,039
i'll go do do book deals i'll you know

599
00:20:37,510 --> 00:20:36,880
i'll i'll start i'll start doing what i

600
00:20:39,510 --> 00:20:37,520
can

601
00:20:40,549 --> 00:20:39,520
to try to recover what i've lost because

602
00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:40,559
i've lost a lot

603
00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:41,840
leaving the government leaving my

604
00:20:46,390 --> 00:20:43,760
pension leaving my retirement

605
00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:46,400
you know it's it that's and easy

606
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:47,120
man

607
00:20:50,630 --> 00:20:49,120
you know no i've got two kids in in

608
00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:50,640
college i gotta put through college you

609
00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:51,360
know i

610
00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:52,880
i swore to them i always do everything i

611
00:20:56,950 --> 00:20:54,799
can to take care of them you know

612
00:20:57,830 --> 00:20:56,960
i gave up everything up until recently

613
00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:57,840
literally

614
00:21:00,870 --> 00:21:00,000
my wife and i were living in a trailer a

615
00:21:03,270 --> 00:21:00,880
trailer

616
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:03,280
you know with my two german shepherds so

617
00:21:07,029 --> 00:21:04,240
it's it's

618
00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:07,039
you know it i have a house and my two

619
00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:08,320
dogs are annoying

620
00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:10,480
yeah well i i love them i'm in a house

621
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:12,320
now you know and i'm uh

622
00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:13,840
you know i've lived in tents before and

623
00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:15,280
i've lived in palaces before and

624
00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:16,720
everything in between

625
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:18,320
uh i knew what i was getting into i'm

626
00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:19,760
not you know i don't need a pity party

627
00:21:21,830 --> 00:21:21,360
i'm not asking people to feel sorry for

628
00:21:23,430 --> 00:21:21,840
me i

629
00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:23,440
i'm a big boy i know exactly what i was

630
00:21:27,669 --> 00:21:25,360
getting into yeah but

631
00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:27,679
you know what i would say to people is

632
00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:29,120
you know if you really believe in this

633
00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:30,720
cause put your money where your mouth is

634
00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:31,200
baby

635
00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:33,840
you know be willing to to sacrifices and

636
00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:35,520
entertainment is the cause

637
00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:36,799
no it's a cause you're right it's a

638
00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:39,440
movement right and i think oftentimes we

639
00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:40,159
treat it as

640
00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:42,080
entertainment and that's where we get

641
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:43,520
stuck in no action

642
00:21:49,909 --> 00:21:47,919
i agree i agree um

643
00:21:52,230 --> 00:21:49,919
this weird question have you ever killed

644
00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:52,240
somebody

645
00:22:00,950 --> 00:22:00,149
i hope not uh you know war is a terrible

646
00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:00,960
thing

647
00:22:11,270 --> 00:22:07,440
we we have to do

648
00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:11,280
uh in in those type of uh situations

649
00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:15,520
very violent horrendous things and um

650
00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:19,679
you know uh all i can say is that if

651
00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:22,799
if you know um

652
00:22:26,630 --> 00:22:25,280
yeah that's fired in anger or whatever

653
00:22:29,830 --> 00:22:26,640
i've had to do

654
00:22:32,149 --> 00:22:29,840
you know it was never personal i i never

655
00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:32,159
wanted didn't go out with a bloodlust to

656
00:22:36,390 --> 00:22:33,840
to kill somebody

657
00:22:38,149 --> 00:22:36,400
uh it was it was done to preserve and

658
00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:38,159
protect other people

659
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:41,760
uh you know uh decisions i've made

660
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:45,919
uh in in those situations um

661
00:22:49,510 --> 00:22:47,679
you know when you're in the world of

662
00:22:50,549 --> 00:22:49,520
intelligence and and at the pointy end

663
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:50,559
of the stick

664
00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:52,480
sometimes you have to make very

665
00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:54,799
difficult decisions and by the way

666
00:22:58,630 --> 00:22:57,120
let me let me just put this this to let

667
00:23:01,909 --> 00:22:58,640
you know something

668
00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:01,919
you know it ain't fun you know when

669
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:03,600
when you kill somebody you might as well

670
00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:04,880
you might as well be married to the

671
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:05,440
person

672
00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:10,880
that that father that husband that

673
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:13,120
brother that son

674
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:16,400
lives with you and even when you are uh

675
00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:18,240
in your happiest moments hugging and

676
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:19,840
kissing your children when you're eating

677
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:21,520
dinner at night when you're making love

678
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:23,760
to your to your spouse

679
00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:26,960
that person's still there and it's it's

680
00:23:33,270 --> 00:23:30,159
um you know it's it it's something that

681
00:23:34,310 --> 00:23:33,280
um is is profound um like i said you

682
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:34,320
might as well

683
00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:37,200
be married to him because they're going

684
00:23:40,789 --> 00:23:38,880
to stay with you the rest of your life

685
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:40,799
well my attempt is to just kind of show

686
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:42,640
that um you know this isn't the only

687
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:44,640
problem you have

688
00:23:48,230 --> 00:23:46,480
you know you're a human with a lot of

689
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:48,240
sides to you

690
00:23:51,750 --> 00:23:50,159
well i mean look war's terrible i mean

691
00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:51,760
we don't i don't make a decision to go

692
00:23:56,230 --> 00:23:53,279
to war our country does

693
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:56,240
and and i do what i have to do uh just

694
00:24:00,070 --> 00:23:57,520
like everybody else

695
00:24:01,269 --> 00:24:00,080
and i don't i don't want to hurt anybody

696
00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:01,279
uh but you know

697
00:24:05,430 --> 00:24:03,520
in in war sometimes you have to and you

698
00:24:07,990 --> 00:24:05,440
have to do it with extreme violence

699
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:08,000
yeah uh and prejudice and you do that

700
00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:10,240
because you're trying to save

701
00:24:14,870 --> 00:24:13,360
you know look the the the idea of war is

702
00:24:16,470 --> 00:24:14,880
not to die for your country it's to make

703
00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:16,480
the poor bastard on the other side die

704
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:18,400
for theirs and and

705
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:20,240
you know that's that's the reality of it

706
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:21,760
and we don't have to go farther into

707
00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:22,320
that it's

708
00:24:25,350 --> 00:24:24,080
i think it's just important for people

709
00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:25,360
to know that uh

710
00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:28,880
this um battle that you are fighting

711
00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:31,360
is fought with other burdens on you it

712
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:33,039
just like all of us so

713
00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:36,240
it's not an easy fight no it's it's not

714
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:38,080
and there's nights you know that i have

715
00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:40,080
trouble sleeping uh like a lot of my

716
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:41,279
comrades

717
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:43,679
uh well know that we're here for you man

718
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:45,279
all these people that are here

719
00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:48,320
like um they love you and they do

720
00:24:53,830 --> 00:24:50,080
anything for you including me

721
00:24:55,990 --> 00:24:53,840
because you have taken this this far um

722
00:24:58,149 --> 00:24:56,000
the report preliminary report which

723
00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:58,159
people need to know it's preliminary

724
00:25:02,310 --> 00:25:01,200
um but all that happened obama all these

725
00:25:04,470 --> 00:25:02,320
people coming out

726
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:04,480
like maybe you didn't go up to them and

727
00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:06,000
twist their arm and say hey could you

728
00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:06,960
say something

729
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:10,159
but you know the environment that uh you

730
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:11,600
really pushed forward

731
00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:13,679
made those things possible well sean

732
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:15,679
again you know i i appreciate that but

733
00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:16,960
listen i'm not i'm not trying to

734
00:25:21,430 --> 00:25:19,600
redirect but in reality

735
00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:21,440
that couldn't have happened if there

736
00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:23,200
wasn't this groundswell

737
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:25,679
of support from from from you and and

738
00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:27,360
your audience that's yeah that's

739
00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:29,520
i don't i'm not telling you that to just

740
00:25:32,630 --> 00:25:30,400
provide cheap

741
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:32,640
you know compliments that's real that's

742
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:34,240
the only reason why these these

743
00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:36,080
grassroots things work because of the

744
00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:37,200
grassroots

745
00:25:42,549 --> 00:25:40,720
right yeah so so it's happening because

746
00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:42,559
you're demanding it and your audience is

747
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:44,159
demanding it and i think that's

748
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:46,000
you know that's that's exemplary i think

749
00:25:49,909 --> 00:25:47,520
that's that's a testament to

750
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:49,919
to to folks like you and showing the

751
00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:51,039
courage that you know

752
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:54,000
i'm you want to know the truth and and

753
00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:55,679
you want your politicians to tell you

754
00:25:57,669 --> 00:25:56,080
the truth

755
00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:57,679
and you want your government to to work

756
00:26:02,070 --> 00:25:59,440
towards the truth right so

757
00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:02,080
that's that's you know that's really if

758
00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:03,520
you wanna if you wanna

759
00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:04,799
if you wanna give somebody credit i'd

760
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:06,960
say look in the mirror

761
00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:10,320
thanks um i appreciate that it does mean

762
00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:11,120
a lot to me

763
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:13,120
and everybody else here i hope it does

764
00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:15,440
too without our actions in this movement

765
00:26:20,310 --> 00:26:16,480
you are correct

766
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:20,320
um and it's nice to have somebody put us

767
00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:24,000
in that uh path most definitely

768
00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:27,440
um how is the ig

769
00:26:34,630 --> 00:26:31,120
inspection going uh quite well um

770
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:34,640
you know mr stone and his staff are

771
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:37,200
are completely committed to this effort

772
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:38,480
as they should be

773
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:41,520
they are trying to to provide a

774
00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:43,520
honest assessment and recommendation to

775
00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:45,200
the secretary of defense

776
00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:47,520
uh every one of mr stone's staff is

777
00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:49,360
highly qualified i had the opportunity

778
00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:51,520
and chance to meet them individually as

779
00:26:55,669 --> 00:26:52,640
as people

780
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:55,679
uh very competent um you know

781
00:27:01,510 --> 00:26:58,880
exactly who you would want uh running

782
00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:01,520
some sort of evaluation or investigation

783
00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:04,240
in into a topic like this so you know i

784
00:27:08,549 --> 00:27:06,080
gotta i gotta give credit where credit

785
00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:08,559
is due and uh i think you know

786
00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:10,000
personally i think we're we're in good

787
00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:11,120
hands

788
00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:13,760
with folks like like mr stone uh firmly

789
00:27:19,029 --> 00:27:15,520
behind the the ig wheel

790
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:19,039
that's good awesome um are you

791
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:22,960
getting any are you still getting

792
00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:26,000
pushback from people in the dod yeah

793
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:28,880
sure i mean things have settled down uh

794
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:30,960
magically over the last uh

795
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:32,480
week and a half i'm not going to go into

796
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:34,960
detail uh it looks like my security

797
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:35,760
clearance uh

798
00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:38,880
isn't uh under direct attack uh as

799
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:41,200
of as of now uh that may change again

800
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:42,480
right

801
00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:45,760
but um you know that you know they

802
00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:47,120
there's still people playing games

803
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:49,120
inside the pentagon but but

804
00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:52,480
um i don't i don't feel that that

805
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:54,960
that that direct threat anymore from my

806
00:27:58,789 --> 00:27:57,120
ability to to feed my family so

807
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:58,799
it is a good it is good you know and

808
00:28:01,750 --> 00:28:00,399
hopefully the system is is going to

809
00:28:04,310 --> 00:28:01,760
continue to work

810
00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:04,320
truth be told probably i i part of that

811
00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:05,919
is because i have an outstanding

812
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:07,600
attorney right someone like danny

813
00:28:12,389 --> 00:28:10,320
sheehan who's who has the pedigree that

814
00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:12,399
very few attorneys have constitutional

815
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:13,919
attorneys

816
00:28:18,630 --> 00:28:16,320
um i wasn't actually gonna wind up

817
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:18,640
asking about sheehan at all because

818
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:20,640
i just feel like that's personal life

819
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:21,760
stuff bring it up

820
00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:23,760
no no no by all means bring it up uh

821
00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:25,520
well the only thing that i was thinking

822
00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:26,000
about

823
00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:27,840
is i just want to make sure this is

824
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:30,240
accurate were you with him

825
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:33,760
um before you left ttsa um

826
00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:37,520
i was not really with him no i

827
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:41,360
i uh i really started getting closer to

828
00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:42,000
danny

829
00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:45,120
after i left ttsa um

830
00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:47,120
you know i'll i'll tell you if just to

831
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:49,039
clear the air if anybody's wondering

832
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:51,600
um recently somebody had put out i'm not

833
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:54,320
going to say who put out a a video

834
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:56,799
it was edited very very cleverly uh

835
00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:58,320
unfortunately it was not

836
00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:00,960
a reflective of the truth um and i i

837
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:02,159
suspect you're going to hear

838
00:29:09,110 --> 00:29:05,840
danny's own words uh his disappointment

839
00:29:10,870 --> 00:29:09,120
in in uh again you know again what's uh

840
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:10,880
somebody who who's just in it for

841
00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:12,320
themselves they're not in it for the

842
00:29:15,029 --> 00:29:13,600
truth they just want to

843
00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:15,039
they just want to collect a buck from

844
00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:16,559
who you know whoever you know just get

845
00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:17,520
another click

846
00:29:23,110 --> 00:29:20,720
sure uh and try to you know uh make

847
00:29:24,389 --> 00:29:23,120
something that that isn't real uh you

848
00:29:26,470 --> 00:29:24,399
know sensationalized

849
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:26,480
i said this to uh mr pope earlier who

850
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:27,840
says hello by the way

851
00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:31,279
he's a good guy he's great i said hello

852
00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:34,799
uh yeah and um i said this to him it's

853
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:35,279
like when

854
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:37,360
when i'm checking my promotional emails

855
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:39,039
in my inbox in gmail

856
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:41,760
and i can't tell the difference between

857
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:42,320
one of

858
00:29:46,310 --> 00:29:44,880
that person's emails and maybe an email

859
00:29:48,490 --> 00:29:46,320
from guitar center

860
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:48,500
i think there's a problem

861
00:29:53,110 --> 00:29:49,919
[Laughter]

862
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:53,120
yeah so yeah um

863
00:29:56,230 --> 00:29:55,279
i wanted to touch on something if you're

864
00:29:59,350 --> 00:29:56,240
all right with it

865
00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:59,360
um when you were with atip

866
00:30:02,389 --> 00:30:00,799
and i think it was on engaging the

867
00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:02,399
phenomenon

868
00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:06,640
um you kind of mentioned that when you

869
00:30:10,149 --> 00:30:08,320
started working with this stuff there

870
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:10,159
were some

871
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:12,880
synchronicities that took place would

872
00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:13,760
you be able to

873
00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:16,559
expand on what those are you know the

874
00:30:19,830 --> 00:30:17,200
problem is i

875
00:30:21,190 --> 00:30:19,840
i can't i can't explain them there are

876
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:21,200
synchronicities there are

877
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:23,039
there are some some things you know we

878
00:30:27,110 --> 00:30:25,440
always say it's a very sticky portfolio

879
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:27,120
we always we always say to and i'll

880
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:29,039
share this with you that that

881
00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:31,039
you don't find a tip you know you don't

882
00:30:33,669 --> 00:30:33,120
find the portfolio the portfolio finds

883
00:30:35,990 --> 00:30:33,679
you

884
00:30:36,710 --> 00:30:36,000
um none of us went out looking for this

885
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:36,720
stuff

886
00:30:43,029 --> 00:30:39,840
yeah um you know there is a lot of

887
00:30:46,389 --> 00:30:45,750
synchronicity here um and and i i can't

888
00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:46,399
explain

889
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:50,640
particularly a believer of

890
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:53,840
of of things like fate um i prefer to

891
00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:57,039
to you know look at mathematical things

892
00:31:01,029 --> 00:30:57,679
such as

893
00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:01,039
as as random chaos uh where maybe there

894
00:31:03,990 --> 00:31:02,480
is some sort of pattern within the

895
00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:04,000
within the noise

896
00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:07,840
um but um you know there's there's a lot

897
00:31:09,990 --> 00:31:09,200
of things that that happen in this

898
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:10,000
portfolio

899
00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:11,440
and and you don't have to ask me ask

900
00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:13,120
anybody who's been been part of

901
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:15,279
part of this effort uh you know there's

902
00:31:18,230 --> 00:31:16,159
a there's a

903
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:18,240
damn lot of coincidences that can't be

904
00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:19,760
explained um

905
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:22,480
just stuff that just you kind of sit and

906
00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:24,000
chuckle to yourself and say you know

907
00:31:26,070 --> 00:31:25,440
they told me this was going to happen

908
00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:26,080
and

909
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:28,720
you know here it is my goodness how that

910
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:29,200
you know

911
00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:32,399
who would have thought um do you think

912
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:34,640
that has any relation to

913
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:37,519
the brain working off of a kind of

914
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:39,600
quantum

915
00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:40,960
you know that's a really interesting

916
00:31:43,909 --> 00:31:43,120
point sean um certainly that's

917
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:43,919
possibility

918
00:31:48,070 --> 00:31:46,640
yeah i mean that's the the more we learn

919
00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:48,080
about the brain the more we realize we

920
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:49,279
don't know anything about the brain

921
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:50,960
and and that consciousness being a

922
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:53,760
quantum potentially a quantum process

923
00:31:57,110 --> 00:31:56,080
uh you know sky's the limit uh when you

924
00:31:59,909 --> 00:31:57,120
start talking about

925
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:59,919
about that um you know you're talking

926
00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:00,399
about

927
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:05,120
necessarily abide by

928
00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:07,679
newtonian laws of physics um you know

929
00:32:11,590 --> 00:32:09,440
they abide by quantum physics

930
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:11,600
uh the laws of quantum physics and and

931
00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:12,720
there a lot of

932
00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:14,880
things are are strange and bizarre but

933
00:32:18,389 --> 00:32:16,159
but are very real

934
00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:18,399
and it's possible sure it's that's

935
00:32:21,509 --> 00:32:19,440
that's a

936
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:21,519
there's certainly some some speculation

937
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:24,000
within within uh the community

938
00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:26,880
uh that i come from that that indicates

939
00:32:29,909 --> 00:32:27,440
that yeah

940
00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:29,919
great question by the way oh thanks um

941
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:31,600
it also kind of makes me think

942
00:32:35,669 --> 00:32:34,000
or have you ever thought or people in a

943
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:35,679
tip ever thought that

944
00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:39,840
not all but some of these phenomena

945
00:32:46,389 --> 00:32:43,039
that you see are at

946
00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:46,399
a reflection of consciousness in any way

947
00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:48,799
so again i want to make sure we're also

948
00:32:51,750 --> 00:32:50,159
speaking the same language on the

949
00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:51,760
lexicon because when you say

950
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:54,640
consciousness i don't mean most people

951
00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:56,159
don't really have a

952
00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:58,480
a definition of consciousness they some

953
00:33:01,430 --> 00:33:00,159
people say well i'm awake it's a thing

954
00:33:02,950 --> 00:33:01,440
that when i'm awake and i'm conscious

955
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:02,960
some people say no consciousness is more

956
00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:04,000
like your soul

957
00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:05,919
then there's no it's your id your chi i

958
00:33:09,110 --> 00:33:07,120
mean it's the

959
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:09,120
the problem is that we we don't we're

960
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:11,600
not starting from a a well-defined base

961
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:13,039
of what consciousness is

962
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:15,600
human consciousness from a quantum

963
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:16,240
process

964
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:19,440
perspective then you know

965
00:33:24,149 --> 00:33:22,159
a lot of things are are possible i don't

966
00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:24,159
understand yet how it's possible to

967
00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:25,600
physically manifest

968
00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:29,440
something uh that is an expression of of

969
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:31,360
quantum processes in the brain

970
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:34,480
i'm not saying it's possible but i i am

971
00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:35,600
not aware of

972
00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:38,640
any examples other than spiritual

973
00:33:42,710 --> 00:33:39,200
examples

974
00:33:45,509 --> 00:33:42,720
minds

975
00:33:47,350 --> 00:33:45,519
of of of religious leaders perhaps what

976
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:47,360
we call miracles right or

977
00:33:52,149 --> 00:33:51,120
or epiphanies uh these revelations that

978
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:52,159
occur uh

979
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:54,720
throughout uh both eastern and western

980
00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:55,679
religions

981
00:34:02,549 --> 00:33:59,600
you know that that those are certainly

982
00:34:04,630 --> 00:34:02,559
you know um hard to explain and and

983
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:04,640
could those be something a result of

984
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:06,000
of consciousness you know there's

985
00:34:09,750 --> 00:34:07,679
there's another discussion that group

986
00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:09,760
prayer uh again i'm not going to go into

987
00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:11,359
details here specifically but

988
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:14,720
but that group prayer can have an actual

989
00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:17,760
physical effect uh or a result on

990
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:18,320
something

991
00:34:22,149 --> 00:34:20,639
right so that's that's very intriguing

992
00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:22,159
right that's very much

993
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:24,639
like like potentially areas like remote

994
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:25,839
viewing and you know

995
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:28,720
you get into the telekinesis and

996
00:34:32,629 --> 00:34:30,480
psychotronic weapons development that

997
00:34:33,589 --> 00:34:32,639
that russia had had developed in the 50s

998
00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:33,599
and 60s

999
00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:35,280
you know there's enough anecdotal

1000
00:34:37,510 --> 00:34:37,119
information there to suggest that yeah

1001
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:37,520
maybe

1002
00:34:44,310 --> 00:34:41,280
behind this did you guys ever use

1003
00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:44,320
or try to incorporate rv

1004
00:34:48,629 --> 00:34:47,040
in your stuff remote viewing in your

1005
00:34:50,790 --> 00:34:48,639
investigations and whatnot um

1006
00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:50,800
you know what um let me see if i can if

1007
00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:52,320
i can answer answer this uh

1008
00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:55,520
sure in a in a uh accurate way yeah

1009
00:35:01,990 --> 00:34:59,359
um i'm not going to speak for assad

1010
00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:02,000
okay a lot of things were done in asap a

1011
00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:04,160
lot of good things were done in ossap

1012
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:07,520
my focus was atip while i

1013
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:10,560
was running atip

1014
00:35:15,829 --> 00:35:13,920
we did not use remote viewing techniques

1015
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:15,839
because there was no real way to

1016
00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:18,560
quantify or qualify that data

1017
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:22,400
now clearly i'm very very good friends

1018
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:25,200
and and one of the pioneers of remote

1019
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:26,000
viewing dr

1020
00:35:29,270 --> 00:35:28,160
hal pudov and later on kate green and

1021
00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:29,280
some other folks

1022
00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:32,480
uh were worked with me as part of atip

1023
00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:34,560
so i'm not i'm certainly not going to

1024
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:36,240
dismiss it at all

1025
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:39,920
um it's just that from for for me

1026
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:42,000
at the office of secretary of defense at

1027
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:43,200
osd

1028
00:35:46,870 --> 00:35:45,280
we tried to focus on really only two

1029
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:46,880
core missions what is it and how does it

1030
00:35:50,470 --> 00:35:47,440
work

1031
00:35:52,310 --> 00:35:50,480
right um you know every so so remote

1032
00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:52,320
viewing wasn't going to be as helpful

1033
00:35:57,670 --> 00:35:54,640
for us

1034
00:36:02,870 --> 00:35:57,680
about the propulsion that potentially

1035
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:05,030
there was a a podcast he did recently

1036
00:36:09,430 --> 00:36:06,720
and this part kind of got um

1037
00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:09,440
i don't know necessarily what viral

1038
00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:11,440
really means but it seems like it went

1039
00:36:18,069 --> 00:36:14,560
semi-viral and it was um

1040
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:18,079
where the person asked you um if we saw

1041
00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:19,760
what you saw or know

1042
00:36:22,790 --> 00:36:21,520
what do you think our reaction would be

1043
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:22,800
and you said

1044
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,160
uh somber now

1045
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,079
that's you know maybe it has to be that

1046
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:30,480
way but it is a little general can you

1047
00:36:42,150 --> 00:36:34,560
point it and uh a little more clarity

1048
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:44,150
sorry folks i apologize i'm kind of have

1049
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:45,599
a little bit of a cold here i got to

1050
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,800
deal with so

1051
00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:48,160
i'm sorry i don't mean to be rude i

1052
00:36:53,430 --> 00:36:50,400
apologize um

1053
00:37:00,870 --> 00:36:57,030
somber um sobering

1054
00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:00,880
right um not necessarily what you think

1055
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:03,920
um you know i i i don't again i'm not

1056
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:05,040
gonna give answers

1057
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:08,079
um for people because you know it this

1058
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:09,680
is their journey their personal journey

1059
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:11,119
and they need to take it

1060
00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:12,720
uh and i'm not gonna there's no

1061
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:14,640
shortcuts um

1062
00:37:21,670 --> 00:37:17,920
but i think uh like many things in in

1063
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:21,680
in the world um let me give you a case

1064
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:22,400
in point

1065
00:37:25,990 --> 00:37:24,400
sure you're going to sail over the

1066
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:26,000
horizon

1067
00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:30,960
and uh find new new undiscovered land

1068
00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:33,200
and so you tell you put a week's worth

1069
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:35,359
of supplies in your boat

1070
00:37:38,390 --> 00:37:36,640
you get a couple of your friends to get

1071
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:38,400
on the boat with you and you

1072
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:40,480
tell everybody give them the big middle

1073
00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:41,440
fingers say

1074
00:37:44,470 --> 00:37:43,520
screw you i'm going and i'm gonna find

1075
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:44,480
it right

1076
00:37:47,829 --> 00:37:47,119
and you start sailing and a couple days

1077
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:47,839
goes by

1078
00:37:53,910 --> 00:37:51,839
your spirits are high you know

1079
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:53,920
after about a week and your food supply

1080
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:54,880
starts running short

1081
00:37:59,190 --> 00:37:56,400
and your water supply starts running

1082
00:38:01,670 --> 00:37:59,200
short and land is nowhere in sight

1083
00:38:04,230 --> 00:38:01,680
you keep going after the second week now

1084
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:04,240
you're on super rations control

1085
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:06,960
your crew is starting to get nervous and

1086
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:08,560
storms are whipping up

1087
00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:10,800
tossing your boat all over the place and

1088
00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:11,920
there's still no land

1089
00:38:16,630 --> 00:38:15,040
right after about the fourth week things

1090
00:38:19,829 --> 00:38:16,640
start getting pretty dire

1091
00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:19,839
right and and and you continue and

1092
00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:22,880
your tenure and then finally uh when

1093
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:24,880
when all else you know when you think

1094
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:26,160
all hope is gone

1095
00:38:31,829 --> 00:38:28,560
and you are just in the abyss forever

1096
00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:31,839
and going to die there all of a sudden

1097
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:33,839
over the horizon this little tiny

1098
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:34,960
outcropping

1099
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:37,839
uh what later turns out to be a new

1100
00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:38,560
continent

1101
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:42,800
right so sobering uh in the sense that

1102
00:38:45,990 --> 00:38:44,400
that you thought what was going to be a

1103
00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:46,000
week or you thought was going to be

1104
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:49,040
an easy journey full of

1105
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:51,920
fairly easy anecdotes and answers turns

1106
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:52,800
out to be

1107
00:38:55,910 --> 00:38:54,880
the challenge of a lifetime it turns out

1108
00:38:58,870 --> 00:38:55,920
now well worth it

1109
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:58,880
well worth it but winds up challenging

1110
00:39:01,270 --> 00:38:59,680
you in every way

1111
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:01,280
emotionally spiritually physically

1112
00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:02,880
intellectually every way

1113
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:06,160
challenging you uh and um

1114
00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:08,880
that's what i meant by that that is

1115
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:11,599
extremely heavy

1116
00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:18,470
generally speaking everyone will be able

1117
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:20,800
to handle something like that

1118
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:22,720
well people can't handle it now like i

1119
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:24,079
said there's people that are running

1120
00:39:27,510 --> 00:39:25,440
running to the hills

1121
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:27,520
you know into the arms of of of these

1122
00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:29,280
cult people with their arms open here

1123
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:30,560
come to me and i'm going to give you the

1124
00:39:34,950 --> 00:39:31,440
answers

1125
00:39:37,829 --> 00:39:34,960
because people people don't like unknown

1126
00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:37,839
they they they fear it to the point

1127
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:40,079
where if you look at us as a society

1128
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:42,000
we have these neat little rules we call

1129
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:43,760
laws and these little you know

1130
00:39:47,109 --> 00:39:45,440
lanes in the road that we stay in and we

1131
00:39:49,109 --> 00:39:47,119
have these little square boxes that we

1132
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:49,119
call yards with fences

1133
00:39:52,150 --> 00:39:51,520
um we are a species that likes to have

1134
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:52,160
boundaries

1135
00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:54,720
we like to know where we are and if we

1136
00:39:57,589 --> 00:39:56,160
don't know where we are then we'll kind

1137
00:39:59,829 --> 00:39:57,599
of create our own little

1138
00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:59,839
world so we feel comfortable where we

1139
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:00,880
are um

1140
00:40:04,630 --> 00:40:03,359
that's just the the that's just the

1141
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:04,640
nature of human beings

1142
00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:07,520
no one likes to be able to basically

1143
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:08,960
well i mean if

1144
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:10,800
yeah i mean if you look at the fact that

1145
00:40:15,270 --> 00:40:13,200
we are in this tiny little ball

1146
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:15,280
hurdling this pale blue dot hurtling

1147
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:17,040
around some

1148
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:20,160
freaks my wife regular star that we call

1149
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:21,760
the sun around some

1150
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:23,520
you know obscure part of the milky way

1151
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:25,599
galaxy amongst hundreds of billions of

1152
00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:27,040
other galaxies

1153
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:28,400
and none of us know really where the

1154
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:30,160
hell we are where we're going

1155
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:32,240
um you know that that's that can be

1156
00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:33,599
problematic for some people

1157
00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:35,440
you know we have things called religion

1158
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:37,200
and governments and whatnot

1159
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:39,440
so so people have have a base something

1160
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:41,359
to hold on to and say okay this is real

1161
00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:43,200
for me this is

1162
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:46,160
you know i can i know where i am um

1163
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:46,560
that's

1164
00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:52,560
you think the base looks like for us

1165
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:54,560
oh my goodness you know what i i

1166
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:56,400
wouldn't even want to be that's because

1167
00:41:00,150 --> 00:40:58,960
you know because with my luck i'll offer

1168
00:41:01,829 --> 00:41:00,160
an opinion all of a sudden people are

1169
00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:01,839
going to glom onto it and say

1170
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:05,119
you know i want to be be careful not to

1171
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:06,240
do that um

1172
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:08,000
yeah i hear you you know look it's it's

1173
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:09,680
a look first of all

1174
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:13,359
it's okay to to sometimes be a little

1175
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:14,640
lost that's when when

1176
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:16,960
the best of life happens i agree it's

1177
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:19,440
okay do you really want to know

1178
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:21,440
where you are all the time and

1179
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:23,200
everything around you no

1180
00:41:26,230 --> 00:41:24,960
it takes up the mystery away the

1181
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:26,240
spontaneity

1182
00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:28,400
we are a discovering species we're

1183
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:29,599
supposed to

1184
00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:33,520
find answers and discover it's okay

1185
00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:35,839
it's okay if you're a little lost you

1186
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:37,040
know there there's

1187
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:38,800
there's an old saying i'm a jeep guy

1188
00:41:42,309 --> 00:41:41,040
right so uh not all who wander are

1189
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:42,319
necessarily lost

1190
00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:45,280
um i agree with that you know it's it's

1191
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:46,560
that's okay

1192
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:49,599
it's okay to be to be uh to be

1193
00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:51,599
working sometimes without a without a

1194
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:52,640
net uh

1195
00:41:56,150 --> 00:41:54,640
right well how many times have you found

1196
00:41:58,870 --> 00:41:56,160
yourself in life

1197
00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:58,880
uh maybe in a spot doing something where

1198
00:42:01,829 --> 00:41:59,839
you feel

1199
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:01,839
just like lost why am i here is there

1200
00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:03,839
real reason oh my god you're doing this

1201
00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:06,319
and years go by and you're like oh i

1202
00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:08,160
mean sean if i can be truthful it's all

1203
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:09,200
the time i mean

1204
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:10,960
i mean you know in the world of

1205
00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:12,960
intelligence it's a whole world of smoke

1206
00:42:16,069 --> 00:42:14,480
and mirrors and you're playing a game of

1207
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,079
chess against an enemy

1208
00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:18,640
who who you'll maybe never see but

1209
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:20,160
mistakes couldn't be higher and they're

1210
00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:21,200
playing against you

1211
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:23,599
and it's if it's uh it's a winner takes

1212
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:24,560
all game

1213
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:26,880
you know there are times where where

1214
00:42:30,550 --> 00:42:28,880
i've asked myself that i've

1215
00:42:32,069 --> 00:42:30,560
i remember coming back from combat the

1216
00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:32,079
first time and

1217
00:42:35,430 --> 00:42:34,720
and holding my daughter my newborn

1218
00:42:38,870 --> 00:42:35,440
daughter

1219
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:38,880
in my hands and and i i didn't even want

1220
00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:40,480
to touch her i felt like

1221
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:42,560
i would i would soil her because my you

1222
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:44,160
know my hands were

1223
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:46,079
were responsible for doing terrible

1224
00:42:51,109 --> 00:42:47,599
things violent things

1225
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:51,119
in war and now i've got this incredible

1226
00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:54,640
newborn premature newborn baby

1227
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:56,560
that little child in my hand whose life

1228
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:58,400
depends upon me and

1229
00:43:01,510 --> 00:43:00,960
and you know this perfect innocence

1230
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:01,520
perfect

1231
00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:04,960
thing and and i i almost didn't want to

1232
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:06,079
hold it i felt like

1233
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:08,240
like i was gonna dirty it somehow right

1234
00:43:13,589 --> 00:43:10,480
um i felt lost then

1235
00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:13,599
i i i felt lost when you know

1236
00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:15,760
my my daughters would come home and have

1237
00:43:20,710 --> 00:43:18,319
a bad day at school i feel lost when

1238
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:20,720
when my you know wife asked me a

1239
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:21,839
question and she says

1240
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:23,760
is this really worth it what you're

1241
00:43:27,109 --> 00:43:25,599
doing is this really is this cause

1242
00:43:29,109 --> 00:43:27,119
really worth it because

1243
00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:29,119
of what it's doing to the family you

1244
00:43:33,349 --> 00:43:31,280
know uh if i can be honest with you i

1245
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:33,359
feel lost all the time but that's

1246
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:36,160
that's okay you know that's that i'm not

1247
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:36,720
gonna

1248
00:43:39,910 --> 00:43:38,480
you here and tell you oh no you

1249
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:39,920
know it's all you know that's the kind

1250
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:41,280
of crap that gets people killed in

1251
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:42,079
combat

1252
00:43:44,870 --> 00:43:43,280
you know when someone says hey just

1253
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:44,880
follow me you know and and we're going

1254
00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:46,800
to we're going to run into the

1255
00:43:49,990 --> 00:43:48,720
to the you know hellfire of bullets and

1256
00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:50,000
bombs you know

1257
00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:51,520
i'd rather do things smarter i want to

1258
00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:53,200
be with a guy who's going to take just a

1259
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:54,720
second to reconnoiter and

1260
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,640
look and say you know what we're going

1261
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:58,640
to go that way not that way

1262
00:44:01,670 --> 00:43:59,760
we're going to we're going to do it

1263
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:01,680
smarter not not not

1264
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:04,800
necessarily harder right that's those

1265
00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:06,160
are the kind of people i'd rather be

1266
00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:08,079
around people that are more strategic

1267
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:10,160
people like chris mellon that that are

1268
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:11,520
that are the consummate uh

1269
00:44:15,430 --> 00:44:14,400
strategist um you know people who who

1270
00:44:17,430 --> 00:44:15,440
understand

1271
00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:17,440
second and third order cause and effect

1272
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:18,960
right and consequences

1273
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:22,160
um that's that's and and being lost

1274
00:44:26,550 --> 00:44:24,640
is is okay if you never feel lost then

1275
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:26,560
chances are you're not going anywhere

1276
00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:28,960
yet no i i guess i kind of relate it to

1277
00:44:31,589 --> 00:44:29,760
um

1278
00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:31,599
you know in life when you have issues or

1279
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:32,960
you fail

1280
00:44:37,750 --> 00:44:36,560
and you know it's it's it's cliche but

1281
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:37,760
because it's true

1282
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:39,040
every time you fail you'll learn

1283
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:41,359
something new and you should be failing

1284
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:43,920
so you can grow sean i'm going to share

1285
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:45,280
something with you about that

1286
00:44:51,109 --> 00:44:47,920
because i agree you know there was a i

1287
00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:51,119
remember my father telling me a story in

1288
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:53,520
in cuba about one of the world's

1289
00:44:55,510 --> 00:44:55,040
greatest swimmers fastest swimmers in

1290
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:55,520
the world

1291
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:58,160
and he had one you know some some huge

1292
00:45:02,150 --> 00:44:59,119
like olympics

1293
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:02,160
type type uh event and

1294
00:45:07,270 --> 00:45:04,720
uh this um the reporter comes up and

1295
00:45:08,710 --> 00:45:07,280
says oh my gosh you know mr garcia you

1296
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:08,720
were an incredible swimmer

1297
00:45:13,349 --> 00:45:11,520
you were the fastest man in the water to

1298
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:13,359
ever be on this planet

1299
00:45:18,309 --> 00:45:15,760
you know what's it like that you've won

1300
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:18,319
so many of these tournaments

1301
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:20,720
and he looked at the reporter and he

1302
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:22,400
said what you don't realize

1303
00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:24,240
is i also hold the record for losing the

1304
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:26,640
most at one point i was the slowest

1305
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:28,640
swimmer i just never gave up

1306
00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:30,640
and in fact i've lost more events than

1307
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:31,760
i've ever won

1308
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:33,680
so yes i may have the gold medal today

1309
00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:35,200
but it's only because i've lost

1310
00:45:39,270 --> 00:45:38,319
so many times before um i i'm not afraid

1311
00:45:41,589 --> 00:45:39,280
of failure

1312
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:41,599
uh at all i think in order to anybody

1313
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:42,480
who says

1314
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:44,319
you know i'll share with you i have my

1315
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,000
tattoos here i don't i don't talk about

1316
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:48,400
them publicly but it's latin it says

1317
00:45:52,630 --> 00:45:49,760
acceptance

1318
00:45:54,150 --> 00:45:52,640
it means with regret anybody who says

1319
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:54,160
they have no regrets

1320
00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:55,920
is a fool that means they've never

1321
00:45:58,950 --> 00:45:57,440
learned in life

1322
00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:58,960
there are things that i regret all the

1323
00:46:01,430 --> 00:46:00,319
time and i never want to make those

1324
00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:01,440
mistakes again

1325
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:02,960
yeah maybe i raised my voice a little

1326
00:46:06,710 --> 00:46:04,880
bit too loud but you still got a value

1327
00:46:09,349 --> 00:46:06,720
that or you may not know

1328
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:09,359
right no no failure is good look failure

1329
00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:10,240
is good

1330
00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:12,800
failure is it's okay because you know

1331
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:14,079
it's the reason why we now have the

1332
00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:15,680
incandescent lamp light bulb

1333
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:17,119
because someone failed so many times

1334
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:18,720
before they finally got it right

1335
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:21,280
but they just never gave up so so

1336
00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:22,079
failure is

1337
00:46:25,109 --> 00:46:24,079
okay as long as you learn from that

1338
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:25,119
failure continue

1339
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:26,480
and by the way you're going to have lots

1340
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:28,640
and lots of failures anybody again

1341
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:30,000
anybody says they've never failed i'm

1342
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:31,200
going to say you've never then tried

1343
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:34,079
you've never succeeded either yeah yeah

1344
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:34,960
that's

1345
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:37,200
definitely true no one is perfect at

1346
00:46:40,150 --> 00:46:39,359
something their first time trying that's

1347
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:40,160
for sure

1348
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:42,960
so um failing to get back up and

1349
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:43,440
learning

1350
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:46,880
awesome um if you had to give

1351
00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:50,000
a a message

1352
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:54,160
to ufo twitter or

1353
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:56,640
i guess i'm just using that to put

1354
00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:58,160
everyone in the same group what would it

1355
00:47:07,349 --> 00:47:00,160
be

1356
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:07,359
for the love of god don't you know

1357
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:09,119
be mindful there's a lot of sharks in

1358
00:47:12,710 --> 00:47:10,800
the water and

1359
00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:12,720
you know i i don't mind being beat up

1360
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:13,920
but there's there's there's

1361
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:16,640
there's people out there that do not

1362
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:18,079
have your best interest at heart

1363
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:20,319
and they will take you for a ride and

1364
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:21,440
they will

1365
00:47:27,990 --> 00:47:24,480
con people

1366
00:47:30,230 --> 00:47:28,000
and uh it you know

1367
00:47:31,829 --> 00:47:30,240
it's a shame it breaks my heart because

1368
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:31,839
ultimately we should all be on the same

1369
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:32,319
team

1370
00:47:35,750 --> 00:47:34,079
uh we should all be working for this

1371
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:35,760
cause so my

1372
00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:39,839
my i guess my advice for ufo twitter

1373
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:40,720
would be

1374
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:43,280
you know just please be careful think

1375
00:47:46,549 --> 00:47:44,720
for yourself

1376
00:47:48,309 --> 00:47:46,559
don't let anybody think for you for the

1377
00:47:50,549 --> 00:47:48,319
love of god don't do that you're

1378
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:50,559
you know your mind is too precious to

1379
00:47:54,150 --> 00:47:52,400
just hand over the reins to

1380
00:47:55,670 --> 00:47:54,160
to some shmo that's that's you know

1381
00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:55,680
trying to make a buck please

1382
00:47:59,670 --> 00:47:58,000
please please don't do that and at the

1383
00:48:03,430 --> 00:47:59,680
end of the day if you do

1384
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:03,440
um you know i i'm sorry

1385
00:48:07,510 --> 00:48:06,079
i'm i'm sorry that that that you got

1386
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:07,520
suckered into something like that

1387
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:10,720
um you know i i think i think most

1388
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:12,640
people are pretty wise to those type of

1389
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:13,440
antics

1390
00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:15,280
yeah again i don't like to say people's

1391
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:16,880
names because i don't even want to give

1392
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:17,680
them

1393
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:26,079
i hate that on the news when somebody

1394
00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:27,280
does something bad and they put the

1395
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:29,119
person's picture all over the place it's

1396
00:48:31,589 --> 00:48:29,520
like

1397
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:31,599
are you glorifying this person yeah i'd

1398
00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:33,280
rather focus on the positive and what

1399
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:34,800
we've been able to achieve collectively

1400
00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:36,240
and accomplish together over the last

1401
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:37,040
three years

1402
00:48:41,589 --> 00:48:37,920
and frankly what we're going to

1403
00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:41,599
accomplish in the next three years yeah

1404
00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:44,480
i can't wait uh that is for sure do you

1405
00:48:48,549 --> 00:48:45,280
think you're gonna

1406
00:48:50,549 --> 00:48:48,559
go back into a government role

1407
00:48:51,829 --> 00:48:50,559
well i don't know sean uh it really

1408
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:51,839
depends uh

1409
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:53,440
you know if my country asked me to come

1410
00:48:58,870 --> 00:48:55,520
back and they want me to serve then

1411
00:49:03,030 --> 00:48:58,880
um i may do that um there's

1412
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:03,040
you know i may my hope is that

1413
00:49:07,750 --> 00:49:06,880
uh very soon uh you know like yesterday

1414
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:07,760
um

1415
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:10,079
somebody will stand up uh maybe that was

1416
00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:12,240
part of the task force or part of a tip

1417
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:14,720
that hasn't been named publicly yet and

1418
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:16,800
can be the new face and continue to move

1419
00:49:20,549 --> 00:49:17,280
forward

1420
00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:20,559
uh collectively with the group so i can

1421
00:49:26,309 --> 00:49:23,599
i can uh gracefully uh bow out

1422
00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:26,319
and and and kind of exit stage left uh

1423
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:27,920
if i can i'd love to spend more time

1424
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:29,680
with my family um

1425
00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:33,119
you know try to try to uh

1426
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:36,160
at least take a break yeah right just

1427
00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:38,000
take a break and and breathe

1428
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:41,280
um you know there's there's

1429
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:43,440
you know the problem is that the the

1430
00:49:46,470 --> 00:49:44,400
this this

1431
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:46,480
this battle isn't over uh we won a major

1432
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:48,079
battle when with the report coming out

1433
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:49,200
the uap report

1434
00:49:52,870 --> 00:49:52,079
it was historic um like you said in the

1435
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:52,880
very first

1436
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,640
it says this is a preliminary report

1437
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:58,160
that means there's other reports you

1438
00:50:01,750 --> 00:50:00,240
know congratulations you won you got it

1439
00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:01,760
right and then it said that there were

1440
00:50:05,190 --> 00:50:03,839
144 incidents and only one they were

1441
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:05,200
able to identify

1442
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:06,480
and by the way that was only in the last

1443
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:08,400
year and a half it was from november

1444
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:11,200
2019 and forward and by the way it only

1445
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:12,160
involved the navy

1446
00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:14,319
right so yeah so people say well there

1447
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:15,760
was one from the nimitz okay that's

1448
00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:17,599
equipment sucks or

1449
00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:19,359
this is well so you've got a lot of

1450
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:20,800
stuff happening right so

1451
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:22,800
so you know we're just now starting this

1452
00:50:27,510 --> 00:50:24,240
journey together

1453
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:27,520
yeah um you know it is kind of

1454
00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:29,119
overwhelming for a lot of people

1455
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:31,839
um but i'll tell you like the the

1456
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:33,280
message is getting

1457
00:50:37,109 --> 00:50:35,280
it's getting out there in the right way

1458
00:50:39,829 --> 00:50:37,119
and the way that i kind of uh

1459
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:39,839
evaluate that is talking to my wife

1460
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:41,520
because she's not very into this stuff

1461
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:44,559
so not that she's not against it

1462
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:46,319
we did see something together but she's

1463
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:48,000
not like me she doesn't have a podcast

1464
00:50:51,670 --> 00:50:48,480
but

1465
00:50:53,030 --> 00:50:51,680
um the news comes on they talk about the

1466
00:50:55,750 --> 00:50:53,040
report

1467
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:55,760
um i come home later ask her about it

1468
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:57,119
what was your takeaway

1469
00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:58,720
and she says well i guess they only

1470
00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:00,880
identified one out of what a hundred

1471
00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:02,559
something

1472
00:51:08,069 --> 00:51:06,480
and i'm like yes right that's exactly

1473
00:51:09,829 --> 00:51:08,079
right honey exactly by the way some of

1474
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:09,839
these things were really really close

1475
00:51:15,349 --> 00:51:13,200
so you know you tell me wow

1476
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:15,359
that's crazy yeah oh when are we going

1477
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:17,200
to see that 50 foot away

1478
00:51:22,950 --> 00:51:21,119
pick oh man that's not up to me but

1479
00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:22,960
yeah there's a couple there that will

1480
00:51:27,589 --> 00:51:25,040
that'll that'll rattle you pretty good

1481
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:27,599
um yeah there's one i i won't go into

1482
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:28,240
detail but

1483
00:51:32,390 --> 00:51:30,880
the video is about 23 minutes long it's

1484
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:32,400
it's

1485
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:36,720
man popcorn

1486
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:39,040
gotta get that uh yeah popcorn and some

1487
00:51:42,630 --> 00:51:40,400
3d glasses and

1488
00:51:44,230 --> 00:51:42,640
maybe some some coca-cola or something

1489
00:51:49,510 --> 00:51:44,240
coca-cola

1490
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:51,990
would you um get one of these things and

1491
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:54,160
uh fly around town if you could

1492
00:51:57,270 --> 00:51:56,800
nope no i'll let someone braver than me

1493
00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:57,280
do it

1494
00:52:02,069 --> 00:52:00,800
yeah no you know you once do yeah

1495
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:02,079
yeah um yeah you were you were

1496
00:52:05,190 --> 00:52:04,400
mentioning once um well on max's show

1497
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:05,200
max has

1498
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:07,119
become a really good friend of mine max

1499
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:08,319
is a great person

1500
00:52:13,190 --> 00:52:10,960
super guy and we're kind of getting

1501
00:52:16,150 --> 00:52:13,200
together and doing more together and

1502
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,160
doing a lot of european stuff so i

1503
00:52:20,069 --> 00:52:18,480
really appreciate that but

1504
00:52:21,990 --> 00:52:20,079
it was on his show when you kind of did

1505
00:52:25,990 --> 00:52:22,000
the demonstration of these

1506
00:52:28,870 --> 00:52:26,000
uh discs and basically how

1507
00:52:31,270 --> 00:52:28,880
multiple ones create different shapes

1508
00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:31,280
and they're in this space-time bubble

1509
00:52:38,309 --> 00:52:34,720
and you also mentioned how it's possible

1510
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:38,319
maybe to break that with an emp

1511
00:52:42,390 --> 00:52:41,760
attack have we tried that i'm i'm going

1512
00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:42,400
to

1513
00:52:50,069 --> 00:52:46,160
very politely deflect that question um

1514
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:50,079
okay but um it's a great question and

1515
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:53,440
by the way i'm getting uh i guess a a a

1516
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:55,359
very friendly reminder here that i've

1517
00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:55,839
got

1518
00:53:00,390 --> 00:52:58,000
i guess i have something else coming up

1519
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:00,400
here shortly so i guess i've got uh

1520
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:03,839
five minutes with you um unfortunately

1521
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:05,200
yeah i apologize you should just told me

1522
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:06,640
not to ask that question no actually

1523
00:53:09,270 --> 00:53:08,000
this is believe it or not now people are

1524
00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:09,280
going to think oh lucy's just trying to

1525
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:10,240
get the hell off now i

1526
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:12,160
promise you i really actually feel like

1527
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:13,599
you rewind the tape about a minute

1528
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:15,200
you'll see my eyes look up at the door

1529
00:53:17,829 --> 00:53:15,839
that's because

1530
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:17,839
the boss is telling me hey you've got

1531
00:53:23,750 --> 00:53:18,880
another one i'm like

1532
00:53:25,510 --> 00:53:23,760
okay all right um let's see

1533
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:25,520
i got one last question sean let me ask

1534
00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:27,040
you a question you know yeah

1535
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:29,920
you're always asking uh your audience

1536
00:53:32,950 --> 00:53:30,640
things and

1537
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:32,960
sure i'd like to i'd like to ask you a

1538
00:53:35,109 --> 00:53:34,240
question if that's okay for your

1539
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:35,119
audience

1540
00:53:40,829 --> 00:53:38,640
yeah how did you get involved in this

1541
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:40,839
topic

1542
00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:43,200
um you know it's not a

1543
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:45,280
topic i thought i would ever uh be

1544
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:46,640
involved in

1545
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:50,240
um i've always paid attention

1546
00:53:53,589 --> 00:53:52,960
watched like your show unidentified but

1547
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:53,599
i never

1548
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:57,440
like went too much further

1549
00:54:01,349 --> 00:54:00,160
and it was last it was the year the

1550
00:54:04,549 --> 00:54:01,359
coronavirus

1551
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:04,559
basically and i just moved into a new

1552
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:04,960
house

1553
00:54:11,589 --> 00:54:08,000
i lost my job right before that

1554
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:11,599
um and then this bowling

1555
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:13,599
season was coming up and my dad and i

1556
00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:15,920
we'd always ball that was our thing

1557
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:19,200
and you know i don't fault him for this

1558
00:54:23,589 --> 00:54:20,400
but he wasn't taking the mask

1559
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:23,599
thing over seriously enough and i said

1560
00:54:26,549 --> 00:54:24,800
i'll do it with the if we're wearing

1561
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:26,559
masks so i go in there and no one's

1562
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:27,440
wearing it

1563
00:54:30,710 --> 00:54:29,200
and so on and so forth we get an

1564
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:30,720
argument

1565
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:32,800
two years before that i have a dream

1566
00:54:38,069 --> 00:54:34,480
where we get in a very

1567
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:38,079
very bad argument where swear words all

1568
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:38,720
that stuff

1569
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:41,520
and i know some people that's not weird

1570
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:42,240
for me

1571
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:44,480
it was weird i couldn't imagine why we'd

1572
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:47,359
ever be put in that scenario

1573
00:54:50,710 --> 00:54:50,079
so fast forward coronavirus house

1574
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:50,720
bowling

1575
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:53,680
all that we have that argument and as

1576
00:54:56,069 --> 00:54:55,520
we're having it i'm thinking of that

1577
00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:56,079
dream

1578
00:54:59,990 --> 00:54:58,160
and i can't do anything to stop it like

1579
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:00,000
i'm just in this

1580
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:03,839
stuff and uh the day before that

1581
00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:06,000
i'm outside of my house and i saw like a

1582
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:07,520
sideways teardrop thing go

1583
00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:10,960
over my head and the day and it was like

1584
00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:13,440
either 50 feet above me or really big

1585
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:15,119
and far away

1586
00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:17,200
and a couple days or something after

1587
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:18,240
that argument

1588
00:55:25,510 --> 00:55:21,839
the same thing except a circle white

1589
00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:25,520
um and i just felt like it was there

1590
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:27,440
for whatever reason for me to see it

1591
00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:29,359
personally and it just shook me so hard

1592
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:31,200
that i wanted to

1593
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:33,200
look farther into this stuff and try to

1594
00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:34,400
figure something out

1595
00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:36,319
i don't think it will but at least

1596
00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:38,480
chasing the dragon uh keeps my mind

1597
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:39,200
occupied

1598
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:41,040
is your dad okay is your dad okay you

1599
00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:42,880
guys yeah yeah

1600
00:55:46,549 --> 00:55:44,880
you know uh the phenomenon i think

1601
00:55:47,430 --> 00:55:46,559
sometimes causes problems for you just

1602
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:47,440
to fix them

1603
00:55:51,589 --> 00:55:50,000
um because i think that happened so

1604
00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:51,599
we're all good yeah

1605
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:54,480
but well sean thank you for sharing that

1606
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:56,880
i i do appreciate it very much

1607
00:56:01,030 --> 00:55:59,680
yeah hey i i have to and that's why i'm

1608
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:01,040
here and i want to help

1609
00:56:05,430 --> 00:56:03,760
i want to do anything i can to help

1610
00:56:07,670 --> 00:56:05,440
there is so much going on

1611
00:56:08,470 --> 00:56:07,680
so many different theories so many ways

1612
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:08,480
to get tugged

1613
00:56:12,230 --> 00:56:10,880
i want to help and you know create a

1614
00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:12,240
grounded atmosphere

1615
00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:13,920
well sean you are helping make no doubt

1616
00:56:17,510 --> 00:56:15,920
about it you are absolutely helping uh

1617
00:56:18,950 --> 00:56:17,520
in a very big way and so is your

1618
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:18,960
audience so so thank you

1619
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:21,680
very much for for everything that you do

1620
00:56:23,910 --> 00:56:22,240
uh

1621
00:56:25,670 --> 00:56:23,920
and look forward to to many more of

1622
00:56:26,470 --> 00:56:25,680
these you know anytime you want to you

1623
00:56:28,470 --> 00:56:26,480
want to have a chat

1624
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:28,480
happy to do it all right well i'll see

1625
00:56:32,470 --> 00:56:30,480
you tomorrow then

1626
00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:32,480
and you can you know you can answer for

1627
00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:34,640
why you wear a baltimore ravenson

1628
00:56:37,990 --> 00:56:36,960
uh you know what it's because i i'll

1629
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:38,000
tell you honestly

1630
00:56:42,789 --> 00:56:41,200
no actually i was a dolphins guy but

1631
00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:42,799
it was given but if you look in the back

1632
00:56:45,510 --> 00:56:44,160
of that that raven's hat it says

1633
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:45,520
national guard

1634
00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:49,920
i'm kind of like well okay because it's

1635
00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:52,240
i'm not a huge football guy uh i wasn't

1636
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:54,880
very particularly coordinated as a kid

1637
00:56:58,390 --> 00:56:56,559
i was more into like boxing and stuff

1638
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:58,400
like that so yeah but

1639
00:57:01,670 --> 00:57:00,160
sean thank you very much my friend um i

1640
00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:01,680
appreciate your time it was truly an

1641
00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:03,359
honor so yes sir and thank you so much

1642
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:04,160
to your audience

1643
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:06,319
uh you know let's let's do many more of

1644
00:57:09,430 --> 00:57:08,240
these yeah sounds good you have a great

1645
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:09,440
week get some rest

1646
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:12,960
you got it take care all right bye

1647
00:57:19,589 --> 00:57:16,480
all right that was uh pretty awesome

1648
00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:19,599
um i really had a great time talking to

1649
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:19,920
lou

1650
00:57:29,190 --> 00:57:27,829
you know i don't really have a whole lot

1651
00:57:31,430 --> 00:57:29,200
else to say about that

1652
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:31,440
because he pretty speaks for himself

1653
00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:32,640
really well

1654
00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:42,549
put away the different theories

1655
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:45,040
and come together in the pursuit of more

1656
00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:45,839
information

1657
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:50,880
everything away and let's just put our

1658
00:57:53,829 --> 00:57:51,920
power together

1659
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:53,839
to get that more information then the

1660
00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:56,480
truth itself

1661
00:58:01,030 --> 00:57:59,280
will come out and it is what it is at

1662
00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:01,040
that point

1663
00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:04,240
but at least we could come together

1664
00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:06,240
and really try our best because we're

1665
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:08,000
not going to get as much accomplished if

1666
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:17,430
so let's not be split up

1667
00:58:21,589 --> 00:58:19,190
let's work with people we might not

1668
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:21,599
agree with or get along with

1669
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:23,680
to accomplish something greater because

1670
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:25,440
people like lou would really appreciate

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that

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before him deserve

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that effort from us since that is who

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they are working with

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and for

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thank you so much for coming here

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please subscribe and share my channel

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that would really mean a lot to me and

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help out

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00:58:54,470 --> 00:58:52,640
um i don't obviously get paid for this

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either i'm just trying to help

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and give platforms for people that

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so anything you can do to help with that

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00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:04,079
would be great like share subscribe

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um go check out disclosure team uh

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they're in the uk

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check out max moskowitz check out

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unidentified celebrity review

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greg o'brien as a podcast um

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that's all those are all honest good

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people

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doing stuff so um

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if you want trustworthy people to follow

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i would follow them

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you can follow me too i ain't perfect

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but i try my best i know some of you

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didn't like that um

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one uh question about

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if he has ever killed someone and

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it's only a bad question to you

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maybe because it makes you feel

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i can't imagine how hard that is

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the sleepless nights in ptsd you know

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and that's the guy who still

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somehow has mental and emotional

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01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:10,799
strength

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to continue this

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is it worth it

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01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:28,150
could you imagine that

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01:00:33,190 --> 01:00:30,960
getting beat up by the dod trying to get

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01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:33,200
screwed by people like greer

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twitter factories just calling this info

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and his wife asked that and i bet he

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didn't

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so let's do our best to help him let's

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be positive let's be in love

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and if you don't like them you don't

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have to pay attention nobody's asking

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01:01:04,069 --> 01:01:01,040
you to

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um but also you're a a pretty

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01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:07,280
bad read you have pretty

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01:01:12,309 --> 01:01:10,480
bad read on people if if you don't um

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01:01:13,589 --> 01:01:12,319
see what he's doing and the truth and

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honesty

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and i will say that with complete

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conviction

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all right guys tomorrow i have david

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marler

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we're going to learn all about triangles

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not a circle not a square

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01:01:35,190 --> 01:01:34,400
not a rhombus not a parallelogram we're

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going to learn

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01:01:41,430 --> 01:01:38,720
about triangle ufos

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01:01:44,789 --> 01:01:41,440
tomorrow with david marlar so please

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don't be a stranger subscribe come back

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01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:55,589
and i appreciate everything

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01:02:00,470 --> 01:01:58,950
i'm glad we didn't have any uh disasters

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01:02:02,390 --> 01:02:00,480
because the fire alarm here was going

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01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:02,400
off like crazy earlier that would have

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01:02:09,190 --> 01:02:06,640
sucked all right i did my best with him

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i hope you guys um enjoyed it please

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01:02:14,470 --> 01:02:11,119
come back for more

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01:02:14,950 --> 01:02:14,480
um start tomorrow my shows are typically

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01:02:18,069 --> 01:02:14,960
at

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1 p.m central standard time

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01:02:28,870 --> 01:02:21,119
um yeah monday through friday

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i am witness citizen

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witness citizens

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witness citizen